And one other thing. Seeing as you spent time in Bermuda and got out and about. Would you in your wildest imagination ever consider tigga represents your average Bermudian? Black, white or anything in between? Didn't think so....
"The only thing that i know, is that bad governance/unethical/corruption/etc. are words synonymous with the present regime."
CC - you must always strive to remember, tigga is just a foot soldier in that regime. A throw away name just like Steve or the multitude of others to create diversion, not necessarily even division. Trust me this is all about capital gains not credibility. The person behind it is but just a small part of the make up of Bermuda. An extreme version. Yes we have out extremists as well. The vast majority of Bermudians do not see eye to eye with him, and certainly not with his multiplex personalities.
If the real person were as altruistic as he claims to be then he'd never post here at all. Kind of hard to justify putting out the flame of racism when you're stoking the fire.
Former Progressive Labour Party Senator Davida Morris yesterday said young people want a new political party — because they're sick of the PLP playing the racecard and censoring free speech.
Ms Morris, 28, says many people her age are extremely mistrustful of a Government she says has "saddened and embarrassed" her through recent events.
"Most people I speak to are wishing for a new party," Ms Morris told The Royal Gazette.
"They want nothing to do with the petty back and forth bickering that goes on and more importantly they are extremely troubled and mistrustful of a PLP Government that uses censorship and race as its defence when there is no real need for it.
"This is not the opinion of every person I speak to but it is the overwhelming majority's sentiment."
PLP chairman David Burt last night argued the idea of censorship was "ridiculous".
Ms Morris, a former chair of PLP youth wing Progressive Minds, spoke out after party members seemingly put distorted information on the young group's website in a debate over Premier Ewart Brown's handling of the Guantánamo Bay affair.
A poll asking whether the Premier should be censured was also taken down from the website when it emerged most people were voting against Dr. Brown.
The Premier has also come under fire after he responded to demonstrations about his leadership by claiming protesters were merely angry at their loss of white privilege. Ms Morris said such tactics — as well as perceived dishonesty by those in power — had left young party members disillusioned.
She believes the PLP youth wing is now defunct and in recent days herself and other young supporters have walked away from the group's website.
"There is a lot of things the PLP can do to improve its relationship with young people although they are looking at a definite uphill battle," she said.
"The youth vote is extremely important to the party in retaining power but their treatment of young people has been wanting on a political and Government level.
"Young people do have long memories. They will remember you telling them one thing and how you acted opposite to what was said. Young people in general are wary of politicians, they expect them to lie but hope that they will be honest.
"When you confirm their worst fears while they may vote for you at present they will always be looking for something else, something better, more in line with their beliefs and expectations."If the PLP is truly interested in courting young people then my suggestion would be that they take a hard look at themselves and their relationship with the members of Progressive Minds."If they cannot see where they erred with us then it will truly be difficult for them to ever gain the trust of young people."
MsMorris who Dr. Brown appointed as one of the Island's youngest ever Senators in 2006 resigned from the youth wing when she went to London to study last summer.She is still in London and has been following recent events online.She has posted criticism of the Premier's actions on the Progressive Minds website and on Facebook, writing yesterday on the website:"I am deeply saddened by the actions of the party though even more so I am embarrassed by them."I haven't been this embarrassed to be a PLPmember since the 2007 election. It is what it is though. I do not regret my actions or any words I have said on this site or FB in regards to Brown's leadership and the events that have transpired since the arrival of the Uighurs."My only regret is that I put so much faith in people who did not deserve it."
Fellow young supporter Jonathan Starling complained the website misled readers by deleting information about the Constitution before last Friday's motion of no confidence in Dr.Brown's Government, to make it seem more likely the motion could result in an election.Mr. Starling also said the site was hijacked by people outside Progressive Minds in the run-up to the 2007 election, to serve as a tool for the PLP's election campaign.He said two US citizens who were part of a Democratic Party affiliated electoral strategy group were given an account so they could post under the name 'Rocksolid'."These mercenaries, with a warped understanding of Bermudian political reality, along with others in the party hierarchy, undermined the authority of this site as Progressive Minds. I understand the account 'Rocksolid' is now used by others," wrote Mr.Starling.
Mr. Burt last night argued there was no censorship on the website, saying articles had to be approved, but that people can say whatever they want in the comment section."Since the middle of 2008, those comments have not been moderated and saying whatever it is they want. Not a single comment deleted or anything else. The idea of censorship is quite ridiculous," he said."I don't know how people can claim censorship when they are on a website bashing the party."Mr. Burt wrote to Mr. Starling during the row on the website:"Your idea of free discussion seems to be calling for the leader's head on a PLP website. Guess what, it's not going to happen."Cut and paste and cry wolf all you like. If you are done with the site, be done with it, it you are done with the party, be done with it. If you don't like something, work to change it."I've spoken with you on many occasions and I appreciate your support of the party. But please do not think that your voice is the lone determination for how this party should operate. None of us agree 100 percent on everything."
Ms Morris and Mr. Starling are creating a new blog called 'Bermuda Jewel', which stands for BermudianJoint Endeavour for Welfare, Education and Liberation."It will be up and running next week and will allow for free and open debate on all topics concerning Bermuda and Bermudians."
Someone mention something about marching in a new direction......
I've been reading ProgressiveMinds over the past few days and I've become so disenchanted with just how manipulative and deceitful senior members of the PLP have treated the more youthful PLP supporters. It's been not just sickening but truly disgusting that they have shown their true colours in such a manner. And then today I read this...
"Mon, 06/22/2009 - 08:38 — D Morris
Reflections...
Progressive Minds is not the youth wing of the PLP? Wow. Don't know why they gave us a key to the building, asked up to help out at events, gave us a vote in the delegates conference even allowed us to organise events in the party's name. Though truth be told they did stop supporting us towards the end despite what we wanted to bring to the party.
I suppose David's right. Maybe we arent true PLP members. By your definition anyway. We are free thinkers who were willing to work, give of our time to support the party. We gave of ourselves and made sacrifices for the sake of the party but we are not the youth wing? Ok. I remember the first time I was given the spiel by Dawn about the PLP being a family. But family doesnt kick out family members over a difference of opinion. Family doesnt turn their back on family members when in their eyes they do wrong. Even Brown went to LA when his son was first arrested. I wish the party had tried to talk to us, really talk to us instead of tell us what to do like we were children. But I guess by the definition that you want to put on us, even though its not in the constitution and the way you treated us we were children to you. The sad thing is despite being aware of all of this the entire time we PMers put principle before personality, party before people and worked for the PLP.
I am deeply saddened by the actions of the party though even more so I am embarassed by them. I haven't been this embarassed to be a PLP member since the 2007 election. It is what it is though. I do not regret my actions or any of words I have said on this site or FB in regards to Brown's leadership and the events that have transpired since the arrival of the Uighurs. My only regret is that I put so much faith in people who did not deserve it. I am walking away from this site because on the basis principles I cannot support it. Some may say its sour grapes but in all honesty I don't see the point of posting here if the conversation is to be stunted and operate opposite to the name of the site (that truth be told really should be taken down because there is limitation on what may be posted; censorship and progression really are mutually exclusive). As Jon said we will be shortly starting a new blog where the conversation and debate can truly be progressive.
A friend had the following quote as her FB status:
"God allows us to experience the low points of life in order to teach us lessons we could not learn in any other way. The way we learn those lessons is not to deny the feelings but to find the meanings underlying them."-Stanley Lindquist
I have learned a lot from this experience, from the PLP in general. I walk away head high and proud of what I attempted to do and will take the lesson and apply them in my future endeavors. So that's it, this is my goodbye to www.progressiveminds.bm I do hope to see all bloggers on the new site when its up and running, I am looking forward to the debate. Until then... PEACE!!!"
Ms Morris, you are the real deal. A young Bermudian who gets it. I applaud your desire to do the right thing and accept that everyone has the right to create their own opinions based upon an open dialogue with ALL Bermudians. Just like the organizers and participants who show up on the Hill come rain or shine.... You too make me proud. Thank you for taking the high road.
I'm not disagreeing with you at all. She even admits she feels "neutered".
In a political organization where having "testicular fortitude" is so important she's basically saying she has nothing in her sack. So why even be there?
"Cox and the country now know that Brown doesn't trust her and should resign immediately!"
Actually, based on Friday, she should now just accept the fact that over 70% of Bermuda cannot trust her, nor her fellow Ministers and they either should all resign or immediately get started with the internal formalities of forcing Brown to resign or have him forced out of his position.
I imagine there is a lot of horse-trading going on as he tries to salvage as much as he can before leaving but as long as Brown is still Premier it's his reputation that they all have to live by. They own his mess.
LOL - don't worry tiggs, just cos they're paying him to show up doesn't mean you're out of pocket.
BTW - when can we expect to see you documentary on the Uighurs and Dr. Brown's great humanitarian deed. BTW - how is it that they were in Bermuda for a whole week before His Holy Highness even made an effort to meet them? And even then they had to be dragged over to the HILL for his photo-op.
"The Rev Al Sharpton, the headline-grabbing US civil rights leader, has announced plans to visit the four Uighurs in Bermuda today to support Bermuda’s “humanitarian gesture”. The Uighurs say that they are tired and may not attend the meeting."
Hey these Uighurs might be alright after-all!
Either that or maybe part of Gitmo's torture program was they had to endure hours and hours of video tapes of Al Sharpton speaking at rallies over and over again.....
Sparxx - Are you for real? The first line was pointed directly at tigga, who I have had an open dialogue with going on since the day he arrived. We've come to know each other. I read his stuff, he reads mine. We continue to post. The first line is part of that relationship.
The middle part is listing some factual things and personal considerations on the individuals tigga mentions. The last part of my post is openly discussing the body of the discussion. I do not deny, discredit or debate the fact that Bermuda has had and still has some serious issues with race.... and sexism.... and elitism (class) etc.
So please, don't tell me you read the first line and got no further.....
tigga - 53% and 50%.... interesting that 95% of all white Bermudians apparently vote UBP and yet they still get 50% of the popular vote. PLP, where Race is the place.....
Are you using the "UBP did it too" argument here? Sounds like it. Nice and contained to fit in with your agenda obviously regardless of what each of the individuals might bring to the table.
Julian Hall? A victim of everything and everyone except his own doing.
Jamahl "No show" Simmons? Had he actually gone out and done what he was elected to do he might have felt more welcome.
Gwyneth Rawlins - I'm more of the belief that she was a victim of sexism.
Max Burgess - didn't he want to be ordained or something like that?
Wayne "Which Way?" Furbert - was as close to window dressing as I would imagine. Grant Gibbons was too white, too rich and not with it enough. Furby gave Gibbo street cred.
Is there racism in the UBP? I don't think one should call it that. Is there bias and sexism? I'd say no doubt. It's a problem island wide. Are there racists, sexists, bigots, elitists and the like in Bermuda? Absolutely. Are parties built around them? No way. Are there some people who just don't have enough back-bone to stand up daily and do the right thing no matter what? No doubt. Are there some people in these parties who are leaches and abusers who use these weak minded people? Absolutely. We saw a fine display of that Friday night.
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