How do you define tough on crime? What do you believe the appropriate sentence is for first degree murder? What do *you* think the course of action for Bermuda should be? I would really like to know, because on Bermudians can take action to improve things in Bermuda.

You say you don't believe the police target blacks, and then in the next sentence you show that you do. I believe there is one documented instance of this, with the New Jersey State Police, but in general is vastly exaggerated.

Blacks are not the major drug suppliers in US cities. At one time it was Colombian crime organizations, but I think in more recent years it has been Mexican organized crime as it is more efficient to ship in large quantities through Mexico than small quantities across the Caribbean. If you have ever seen the movie "Blow" it shows how the white smugglers/middlemen were pushed out of the business by the Colombians.

As far as Bermuda goes- if you are selling soda for $6.19 a six pack, or renting crappy apartments for $3000 a month, I think you would find the profits from selling drugs paltry.

Im a bit confused... In that article he was talking in regards to the fall and decline of detroit, in which you CANNOT compare Bermuda and Detroit.  A large part of Detroit's spiral down was the collapse of the US automotive industry.  When you have high amounts of unemployment, things go downhill. And please make note of what BED stated in the post above.
So I guess you are trying make a comparison between Detroits mayor and Bermuda's premier.  Im sure I can dig and search for comparisons of Bermuda's past leaders and F.W deClerk.


This brings me to your post Onion.  What does the fact that US police departments terrible hiring practices amongst minorities have to do with anything?  They did not screen their applicants accordingly and in return they paid the price.

"Police departments must use race and sex preferences in hiring as a result of federal court consent decrees and political pressures. To meet these demands, many police departments have lowered, and in some cases eliminated, established standards for personal character and intellectual and physical capacity."

This part made me laugh.  So I guess there are no minorities or women whom have good character, intelligence and physical capacity???  In cities of milions of people they cannot find a few??
   Funny thing in that article is that they mentioned black cops who were involved in incidents, or corruption etc.. but they never mentioned white cops who were involved in such incidents.  Officers who beat Rodney King, the several officers involved in drugs, extortion in Miami in the 80s etc etc.   They hired bad police officers and they come in all shades, but no, lets not focus on the fact that people are people, lets focus on the fact that these type of people are not compentent enough to be officers because....................

Or that post was just to contribute to a belief that certain types of people cannot be put in positions of power or authority or power?

I knew where he was going.... but when one points it out they get accused of having a "chip on their shoulder".

That is so far from the truth IMO, but to each his or her own.. I feel many posts I see here have undertones. 

btw.. At least in most cases I see logical discussions in a respectable manner.

What, in particular, are you calling a Straw Man?

BED you are correct

there is a small clique of buffoons massaging each others egos here, it's LIB version 2

any one responding to their  ignorant BS is not going to deviate from their political prejudice/s... disguised as commentaries ...


we'll know when ther're done when the flatulent noise dies down...

 hopefully, we'll all survive the stink...

Hey, biggie?

How about responding to the questions asked of you, about your apparant racism and homophobia?
Or are you just here to troll?

Come on. If you're a big enough man to put this garbage out there, be a big enough man to back it up.
If not, you're no better than those you denounce with your REALLY badly done photoshop rubbish.


Blue Eye,

I know what a straw man is, I was just asking which argument you were applying it to.
You're right. Biggie never said "black people = heathen criminals", but he did imply that the influx of Asians and Arabs was part of a decline in Bermuda, which I find offensive and, well, incorrect.
But, of course, as trolls do everywhere, they never respond to anyone or defend their stance, they just lash out and attack.

Rummy, I really don't want to get into this with you, as we all know where it leads, but...

No.

Are you actually saying that we should just shut up and let people say crap like this?
"it exists and comes in many shapes and forms" is not an answer to my question.

I want to fight racism. I want to stop it as best I can. I want it gone. You don't seem to have a problem with it, based on past remarks, but I do.
I don't want racism in any form in my country. This is my home and I don't want that poison here.

So, thank you very much for your "input", but I think I'll dismiss it and keep doing what I'm doing.