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« Reply #195 on: December 03, 2007, 09:05:27 AM »

Gee thanks Blankman. That was swell. I think I just experienced a flashback, or was it a hot flash - whatever.

Don't worry about that.  The latest stem cell treatments will make those symptoms a thing of the past.
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« Reply #196 on: December 10, 2007, 06:06:29 AM »

You may find this interesting to put the supposed 'technology' in context:

Stroke 2007;38;832-839
Bruce H. Dobkin
Behavioral, Temporal, and Spatial Targets for Cellular Transplants as Adjuncts to Rehabilitation for Stroke

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A biased interpretation of the animal preclinical literature has also led to commercial infusions of cells, presumably of hematopoietic or neural origin, that are marketed for whatever neurological disease and deficit the recipient wishes to mollify (eg, see http:// stemedica.com, www.stemcellschina.com). No knowledge of course can be gained from this misuse of a new technology.

Do the cells survive, act in some way on neural tissue, or lessen specified and carefully assessed impairments and
disabilities? Disabled patients are ready, but are cellular strategies ready for clinical efficacy trials?

Enough said.

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« Reply #197 on: December 10, 2007, 09:14:06 AM »

Hey Helix - any idea WHERE the clinic is being setup?  There's a medical office being setup where the Monte Carlo used to be on Victoria St.  Saw it Friday night parking in City Hall...

W.
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« Reply #198 on: December 10, 2007, 09:19:40 AM »

The clinic is proposed to be sited in a converted private dwelling in Smith’s Parish, 'owned' by the Brown group.

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« Reply #199 on: December 10, 2007, 01:42:02 PM »

Oh Boys,

I am so sorry. I lost track of this thread, as the news just keeps on coming. Wags looks resplendent, and somehow, noel*.

Blankman, I only want the cure for the latter symptom, though I appreciate your concern.

Love,

Eddie

BS   *OOOps, I forgot the 'b'.

 
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« Reply #200 on: December 19, 2007, 03:56:34 AM »

Hi all,

The last 24 hours considered, this will be my last post. The population of the Island have decided that they prefer the PLP. So be it. They deserve each other, and as for my particular point in posting, they probably deserve the clinic. We have put substantial efforts in letting your readers what was at stake, perhaps it was partially my fault for not explaining it clearly in lay terms.

However, I have to get back to my own business and life. It is unknown if i will return to the rock to live, visits - of course.

I wish you all well and all successes in your path through life.

regards,

Helix.

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« Reply #201 on: December 19, 2007, 06:09:52 AM »

perhaps it was partially my fault for not explaining it clearly in lay terms.

No, don't feel bad about it.

I was once in a fairly similar situation; an international technical body I was involved with made what I considered to be a very poor choice. Afterwards, one of my main allies in the debate and I had a long long, agonized post-mortem in which we tried to understand what we'd done wrong, how we could have produced a different outcome. What we eventually came to understand was that it was forces beyond our ability to do anything about which had produced that result.

So too here. I think what happened was the result of powerful forces, forces beyond the ability of words to affect. So there was quite literally nothing that you could have done to change anything. Don't sweat it; you did all you could, and that's all anyone can do.

Best of luck with your other endeavours.

Noel
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« Reply #202 on: January 18, 2008, 11:42:56 AM »

Sorry, cannot leave this alone.

Found this on a web blog for People who think that they need stem cell therapy.

http://www.stemcellpioneers.com/showthread.php?t=287

If money is important to you, Stemedica is a lot more expensive than any treatment you have been buying in Mexico.
I called Stemedica, and although they did not have a viable treatment package for my condition, the price they quoted was about three times or more what you have been paying. It was in the $50,000 range.
Other than the Stowe Foundation (who try to sell you a hundred different things for tons of money), this is the highest quote I have received from ANYONE for stem cell treatment.
They claim to be "refining" their cells in some particular way.
Just FYI,


Money, Money, Money, its soo lovely in this rich man's world. "Caring for humanity", my arse.

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« Reply #203 on: January 18, 2008, 12:07:37 PM »

does stemedica get 'tax heaven' benefits from bermuda?
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« Reply #204 on: January 18, 2008, 04:20:52 PM »

Oh come on ....there are NO taxes in heaven.  That's what makes it heaven
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« Reply #205 on: February 27, 2008, 07:41:52 PM »

"His so-called "stem cell" clinic is nothing but a front for his 64 bit CT scan."

Interesting point. I've theorized that the whole BHC court case was intended actually to reinforce the "Us-vs-Them" mentality, and I wonder if the whole stem cell thing wasn't intended as a smokescreen, a show to distract the usual suspects (e.g. a lot of people here) while the real action was going on... in plain sight (like that book, what was it, the 'Purloined Letter', where the missing thing was hidden in plain sight).

I mean, he had to have known that anything as dodgy as a stem-cell clinic - let alone run in cahoots with a bunch of scam artists like his partners - would have raised a ruckus. So why do it? Well, perhaps to whip up the usual suspects (see the BHC court case), but I wonder if it wasn't a double-play - do that, as well as screen the MRI - or actually, maybe even a triple-play, because they might still put in some moola from the stem-cell scam.

Noel

There fixed it for ya. Propped it back up on it's proper barstool...

So let's talk about 64 Bit Thingy Majigs shall we. I'm going to try to follow Brendalana's new rules of engagement and see if what I say can pass muster with the legal beaver crowd....

Fact is Doc Brown has been the Deputy Premier, acting Premier and now the Premier for quite a few years. He is also a Doctor who has a medical practise and has expanded his business to open a stem cell clinic. During his political career he has also helped set up a health organistation with his brother that raises funds and advises the hospital on various things. He also has a long relationship with the Lahey Clinic in Burlington, Massachusetts just outside Boston.

The fact is the KEMH is supported largely by Bermudian and resident taxpayers. It needs to stay in business and remain viable and if it can offer more cash revenue generating services on the island it can only help it's cause. It has a CT scanner but it's in need of upgrading. The hospital knows this because it has paid for extensive studies to determine this as well as by the fact that numerous Bermudians and residents are sent off to the Lahey Clinic and other locations for scans on much better equipment, namely 64 bit scanners.

The fact is the Bermuda Ombudsman has declared, after an extensive study, that there is too much political interference at the hospital. In addition the Premier even declared in his first Throne Speech that he was going to do away with the Indigent Clinic immediately even without any substantial studies or discussion with the patients or the hospital itself claiming it was mainly about dignity. A list of doctors was drawn up that these patients would be transferred to. Another fact that came out was that the Premier Doctor Brown was privy to business dealings at the hospital through the "Saturday Morning Club" and in fact demanded certain things be done at the hospital himself. It is not known how many board members were privy to these dealings.

The fact was made very clear by Doctor Brown that he was opening up a Stem Cell Clinic and then decided he wanted to import an advanced 64 bit CT scanner because there is an obvious need for it in Bermuda. At the cost of $1.5 million it will likely pay for itself as it will be much cheaper for insurance companies to save on airfare and hotel rooms as well as appointment costs in the Lahey Clinic. At the same time this was announced the KEMH announced that they were upgrading their scanner to an 8 bit program.

The questions now become very clear.

1: Was the Premier privy to documents stating a better scanner was needed? And did he pay for those documents?

2: Did the Premier influence the hospital in their decision making and force them to stick with the 8 bit upgrade thus protecting and enhancing his own business by going with the 64 bit system?

3: If Bermuda can support a 64 bit as well as an 8 bit scanner why did the KEMH not bring in one as well? Is $1.5 million too much for them even though they could charge more money and still save the insurance companies alot? Why would the BHB not have considered this?

4: Is the 8 bit scanner now obsolete because a competitor has a better system on island? If so who will send the patients to the Premier's new clinic for scans? Will it be the same doctors on the list that received the Indigent patients?

5: Should the hospital now reconsider it's position and bring in a 64 bit scanner? If they do, will the same doctors on the list continue to send their patients to the Premier's scanner even if it's not near their offices for fear of repurcussions?
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« Reply #206 on: March 18, 2008, 08:34:18 PM »

Kudo's to the RG for following through on ScannerGate:

"Finally also being updated at the hospital, along with Ward improvements starting with Cooper, Perry, Gordon and Curtis, is the CT Scanner.

Until this year, the hospital was struggling with only a 1-slice scanner, which was slow and limited in the imaging it could perform.

A CT Scanner is a large, technically advanced x-ray machine. It is used to diagnose a variety of diseases and allow doctors to inspect the inside of the body without having to operate or perform intrusive examinations.

Now an 8-Slice scanner has been introduced, until the imaging process at the hospital can catch-up to the 64-Slice machine. That will then become the second 64-Slice machine on the Island.

The Premier recently opened the Brown-Darrell Clinic clinic, at the Winterhaven cottage on South Road and revealed the new $1.5 million machine.

The first floor, where the scanner is located, houses the medical facility owned by the Premier and his wife Wanda.

Brown-Darrell, in partnership with Stemedica, will operate a stem cell research and treatment unit on the second floor of the building.

Speaking about the hospital phasing in, Mr. Hill said: "That (the 64-Slice) could happen this year. It generates a lot of images. The 8-Slice is an excellent machine. It's the same quality as the 64-Slice.

On having the two machines he said: "It gives us redundancy. For more flexibility. I think the 8-Slice was something we bring in quickly. We thought it important to bring it in quickly.""

So now that we have top of the line scanners on the island can we expect prices for scans to be roughly the same as a scan would be for a similar machine in say Boston or Baltimore? Or because the cost of the machines total $3-4 million should we expect a little price gouging for a while.... anyone know what the Premier's chargeing for his scans at the moment?

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« Reply #207 on: March 19, 2008, 05:09:47 AM »

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We aren't used to thinking of health care as being corrupt, but at 15% of the GDP these days, that's where the money is (as bank robber Willie Sutton explained in response to a question about why he robbed banks). So, it's only natural that crooks will gravitate toward that industry.

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