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« on: February 05, 2008, 10:40:39 AM »

Man admits molesting two girls

A man was jailed for eight years by a Magistrate yesterday after pleading guilty to ten charges relating to the sexual abuse of two young girls.

The defendant is said by prosecutors to have committed the offences against the girls — the daughters of his partner — over the period 2003 to 2007. Both were under the age of 11 at the time.

Defence lawyer Elizabeth Christopher told the court that the mother of the victims continues to support the man who has sought counselling to address his behaviour and is unlikely to re-offend.

Handing the sentence to the man, Senior Magistrate Archibald Warner said that he had taken into account his admission of guilt, apology for the crimes and the fact that he has no previous convictions.

None of the parties involved in the case can be identified for legal reasons.

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« Reply #1 on: February 05, 2008, 11:13:21 AM »

There is absolutely no excuse, no reason, no set of circumstances that can justify or make someone feel like they understand how a grown adult can sexually abuse two kids.  It's deplorable, and the fact that the "judge" is taking ANYTHING into consideration is a travesty of justice to the highest degree.  Why can't anyone be held accountable for crimes?  Jeeeeezhus, this is just sickening.  It's never just someone's fault, there's always a set of circumstances that takes the responsibility of an individuals actions out of their hands.  grrrrrr.....this just infuriates me to no end.

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« Reply #2 on: February 05, 2008, 11:30:23 AM »

CC... what i find even more deplorable is the fact that the mother continues to support him! Jeez... what message does that send to the victims? God forbid I ever found myself in that position... the only court appearance I'd be making would be for mention in what would definitely be an indictable offense...
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« Reply #3 on: February 05, 2008, 11:59:01 AM »

personally i'd like to see them both fitted with concrete shoes and chucked off the nearest cliff
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« Reply #4 on: February 05, 2008, 12:13:53 PM »



                                               Shocked  Shocked

 I am still haunted by a case I heard in the Supreme Court back in early 1950's.  A forty-something year old man charged with molesting a nine-year old girl. The girl's grandmother was a witness for the prosecution, and her words made me sick to my stomach!!! She said " I saw them on the bed, and the she (the girl) was lying crosswise with her feet on the floor, and I told him (the accused) 'if you're going to use that child, let her lie on the bed lengthwise or you'll hurt her back'" !!!  ...The judge sentenced the man to prison term ( can't remember how long) and also six strokes of the cat-o-nine-tails...The grandmother should have been dealt with as well.....this makes me wonder how safe our children really are, especially from their families!

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« Reply #5 on: February 05, 2008, 12:23:05 PM »

personally i'd like to see them both fitted with concrete shoes and chucked off the nearest cliff

The question here is why does the Woman stick with her man. The answer is a societal equation. Self estyme (sp) he's a good man, he pays my rent, he gives me child support, he's really a nice guy..................

Then again, this is found everywhere where people feel obliged.........and in a small community the ugly head does not raise itself until someone complains. Who complained? The victims? Child Services? How did it get to the Courts?

We make a big headline on a Blog about this yet it goes on 24/7. What are we/you/us doing about it?

As far as I am concerned...nothing until it hits home or makes a good 'give em hell thread'.

Tink about it.......................
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« Reply #6 on: February 05, 2008, 12:43:57 PM »

believe me Rummy, I know.

I have a very close relationship with someone that was abused terribly by her 'father'. This person wasn't the only one either. Yet the one person that could have protected her from it didn't - this person loves the abuser. Somehow. Someway. It was swept aside because this person truly believe the abuser would change his or her ways.

While the abuser did, kind of, change some of their ways.. the abuse continues in other forms (mental, financial, emotional). But what can you do when the victim or persons protecting the victims don't want the abuser to pay for what they have done? Why don't we have laws that say 'We find out you're abusing someone, we lock you up / force you into anger management / etc. and no one else has a say'.

What's the point of blowing a whistle if when everyone comes running to aide the person that is being hurt - that person or those that 'protect' them don't want the help?
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« Reply #7 on: February 05, 2008, 12:49:14 PM »

It's called a 'connundrum'.............Everyday events on this planet are a prime example.

The long and winding road leads us back.............................. Wink
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« Reply #8 on: February 05, 2008, 12:55:22 PM »

Were the kids taken away from the situation? I cannot imagine the courts allowing them to stay in such a danger zone.
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« Reply #9 on: February 05, 2008, 01:04:04 PM »

kids were not taken away. i've sent you a pm..
oh.. or was that for CO ?  wacko
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« Reply #10 on: February 05, 2008, 03:35:16 PM »

SG- I wondered the same thing... I would expect that the court would have a duty to remove the children from the home... If standing by such a vile creature in the face of such heinous acts against your children does not fall within the definition of 'unfit', then I don't know what does...
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« Reply #11 on: February 05, 2008, 05:48:15 PM »

It is horrifying how many people put their adult 'relationship' ahead of their children's needs. I can't help wondering how much that is related to the way in which society values (or not) women... so many women are led to believe they are nothing or insignificant without a man. In a country where sentencing of domestic abuse perpetrators is so often pathetic, there is inevitably a knock-on effect.

This man, lets face it, is a paedophile. I don't believe there is an actual cure for this - typically in other countries, part of release conditions would be that the convicted person keeps a distance from children, is never alone with them etc.
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« Reply #12 on: February 05, 2008, 07:28:43 PM »

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I could think of a few "cures" for this - none of them legal/ethical or moral but i don't suppose too many would care (oh except for the human rights movements of course).
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« Reply #13 on: February 05, 2008, 08:09:57 PM »

I know nothing really other than what is posted here so my thoughts are somewhat superficial, however, 8 years seems like a fairly decent sentence in this day and age.  Bermuda is far better at hammering these scum than the UK is I can tell you that.  The authorities now seem to default to the kids being better off with the natural parent in all but the most serious of cases, this was further concreted by a few high profile cases in which social services got it wrong when removing kids from suspected abuse.  However, in Scotland kids cannot be kept in the home of a serious sexual offender...it's an offence for the offender to be there and potentially for anyone else (the partner for example) to facilitate it knowing the offender history.
Not being a aprent it's hard to comment in depth but I find it hard to imagine me wanting to do anything other than really hurt the slime bag....stand by him....sheesh....poor kids, I hope they get quality help and can lead productive lives full of love and care. Sad
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« Reply #14 on: February 05, 2008, 08:25:26 PM »


8 years seems like a fairly decent sentence in this day and age
In theory... however thanks to parole an 8 year sentence is really more like a 2 and 1/2 year sentence ( you only have to serve a third of your sentence before being eligible for parole)...
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