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« on: February 20, 2008, 08:47:22 PM »

From the RG:

allegedly sent to her by the defendant: "'I think you are gorgeous, from the very second I saw you I knew I was in trouble.

"'From the first time I saw you... I've gotten completely crazy about you... I'm just scared because I can't wake up without you popping into my head.

"'It's driving me crazy, romantically insane  I love you... as much as I know I have no right to be jealous if you choose to go out with your boyfriend, I love you.'"
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« Reply #1 on: February 21, 2008, 08:40:42 AM »

weird weird weird...........

The phrase "dirty old man" springs to mind!
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« Reply #2 on: February 21, 2008, 11:40:20 AM »

weird weird weird...........

The phrase "dirty old man" springs to mind!

What a creeper. Even if he didn't have sleep with her, he told her he wanted to wait until she's 18. That's just plain creepy.

If convicted what would happen to him? I hope he'd be removed from the island. No offense, just we don't need people with those issues here.
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« Reply #3 on: February 21, 2008, 12:17:57 PM »

This whole case seems strange from all angles...I'm not condoning the behaviour of the defendent AT ALL (regardless of whether he actually slept with the girl or not, his behaviour was completely INAPPROPRIATE and he neds to be charged with SOMETHING) - but in one of the articles, it stated that the girl was talking to an adult family friend (friend of her father's) about sleeping with the defendent and this 'family friend' asked her for all the 'juicy bits' - does that sound like something you would say to your friend's 14 year old DAUGHTER?!?!?!?! DISGUSTING!!!! That guy needs to be sentenecd to some therapy sessions at minimum too!

I also don't get the significance in one of the earlier articles that states that she contacted several boys via text message, and that at least one of these boys was black, and that she was white and her father was white and the defendent is white....wtf does THAT have to do with ANYTHING - who cares if one of the boys or ALL of the boys were black...and the other people were white - who cares if they were purple, grey, or green - it's crap like this that pisses me off...this sh*t has NOTHING to do with the case at hand...NOTHING!
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« Reply #4 on: February 21, 2008, 12:23:35 PM »

I also don't get the significance in one of the earlier articles that states that she contacted several boys via text message, and that at least one of these boys was black, and that she was white and her father was white and the defendent is white...

I agree, that bothered me too. I was surprised that the reporter put it in, and even more surprised that the editors let it through...

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« Reply #5 on: February 21, 2008, 12:31:13 PM »

weird weird weird...........

The phrase "dirty old man" springs to mind!

What a creeper. Even if he didn't have sleep with her, he told her he wanted to wait until she's 18. That's just plain creepy.

If convicted what would happen to him? I hope he'd be removed from the island. No offense, just we don't need people with those issues here.

So what about the inordinate number of "dirty old men" that are Bermudian?  Maybe we can stick them all out on North Rock.
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« Reply #6 on: February 21, 2008, 12:36:42 PM »

I also don't get the significance in one of the earlier articles that states that she contacted several boys via text message, and that at least one of these boys was black, and that she was white and her father was white and the defendent is white...

I agree, that bothered me too. I was surprised that the reporter put it in, and even more surprised that the editors let it through...

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I think the defense was trying to establish that the girl may have been involved with somebody else [not the 37 year old] but lying about it because the boy was black and her father would not approve. Sounds like grasping at straws at this point.
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« Reply #7 on: February 21, 2008, 12:47:49 PM »

In my experiences - when there is little defence - the defence lawyers go off on tangents and bring up all sorts of irrelevant issues - i.e. text other boys (so what?) and one was black (so what again?)

I guess they hope for a 'bite' and then to confuse the jury or deflect things onto another issue?

Unfortunately this tactic often works!!... wacko....

The defence has to say something - when you have no real defence – some (not all Lawyers – *phew* don’t want them after me!) can go fishing and grasp at straws.

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« Reply #8 on: February 21, 2008, 12:48:51 PM »

weird weird weird...........

The phrase "dirty old man" springs to mind!

What a creeper. Even if he didn't have sleep with her, he told her he wanted to wait until she's 18. That's just plain creepy.

If convicted what would happen to him? I hope he'd be removed from the island. No offense, just we don't need people with those issues here.

So what about the inordinate number of "dirty old men" that are Bermudian?  Maybe we can stick them all out on North Rock.

Being that they're bermudian, they're bermuda's problem. But, if that person is American it's not our problem/our taxpayer's problem to rehabilitate them / allow them to stay here so they can try and check more 13yr olds.

I mean, if lets say this was happenning in the US and the guy was Bermudian would he be allowed to stay in the country once he had served his time in jail?

So, are you suggesting we allow pedophiles and other social deviants to stay in Bermuda on the basis that since we have bermudian pedophiles/social deviants it would be discriminating? Sorry, in my opinion when you do sick shit like that you kinda give up your rights to an extent, regardless of whether you're living in your own country or not.

I'm all for sarcasm, but after ur done, try and come up with alil more. My question is valid and others might be wondering the same thing.
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« Reply #9 on: February 21, 2008, 01:00:47 PM »

I also don't get the significance in one of the earlier articles that states that she contacted several boys via text message, and that at least one of these boys was black, and that she was white and her father was white and the defendent is white...

I agree, that bothered me too. I was surprised that the reporter put it in, and even more surprised that the editors let it through...

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I think the defense was trying to establish that the girl may have been involved with somebody else [not the 37 year old] but lying about it because the boy was black and her father would not approve. Sounds like grasping at straws at this point.

Okay...I can sort of see that...I guess...but 'grasping at straws' is right! I still don't really see the significance of pointing out people's race in this particular instance- all that does is paint a picture that the father of the victim is racist...unless they're trying to prove that he is also ageist - and okay, I get that the defense is trying to prove that maybe this girl 'tells stories' (what a pretty way of calling her a liar) but the defendant wrote her inappropriate e-mails and text messages...these people should be happy that I am NOT a judge...

This whole case (what is being presented in the papers at least) seems so surreal...honestly! From what I am reading (between the lines) this girl may be a little lolita, BUT, Mr. 37-year-old SHOULD KNOW BETTER! All I can think about are his poor wife and kids as I believe they are the REAL victims in this whole affair (pun intended)

KUDOS to the girl's father for taking her cell phone and getting into her e-mail account to read the messages - parents seriously need to be nosey...I hated it at the time, but my parents knew EVERYTHING that was going on (including reading notes tucked away in my backpack - my stone-age version of 'text messages') but that's exactly what type of parent I plan to be when the time comes...NOSEY!

I do have to applaud the fact that this has made it to court - what about that other 14 year old girl who had gone missing and they suspected that she was keeping company with an older man who was questioned about her whereabouts at the time...I'm trying to recall details, but it was in the paper not to long ago! Does someone actually have to press charges for stat rape here or can the police go ahead and charge someone without anyone pressing charges?
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« Reply #10 on: February 21, 2008, 01:27:55 PM »

I was surprised that the reporter put it in, and even more surprised that the editors let it through...

I think the defense was trying to establish that the girl may have been involved with somebody else [not the 37 year old] but lying about it because the boy was black and her father would not approve.

Ah, got it. And now I understand why the RG put it in the story (sorry about the whack, Jeremy et al); they were merely reporting what was said in court.

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« Reply #11 on: February 21, 2008, 01:34:14 PM »

The defence has to say something - when you have no real defence – some (not all Lawyers – *phew* don’t want them after me!) can go fishing and grasp at straws.

"If you have the law on your side, argue the law. If you have the truth on your side, argue the truth. If you have neither, bang on the table."  -- Old legal maxim

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« Reply #12 on: February 21, 2008, 08:54:16 PM »

I'm with J-Pat on this one, the man really should have known better.  I'd like to know what in the world would a 37-year-old man find attractive about a 13-year-old girl (and vice versa)??  wacko

I feel so sorry for his poor wife.  Can you imagine, this poor woman has been cheated on - which is horrible on its own but, to make matters worse, the other 'woman' is a 13-year-old girl!!!  I can't begin to imagine what she must be going through.  If I was the wife, I would have pulled a Lorena Bobbit, if you catch my drift (and no, I wouldn't be using a sharp knife)!
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« Reply #13 on: February 21, 2008, 09:23:12 PM »

If I was the wife, I would have pulled a Lorena Bobbit, if you catch my drift (and no, I wouldn't be using a sharp knife)!

Wasssup, repeat after me:  oooooohhhhhhmmmmm violence does not cure violence...   innocent
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« Reply #14 on: February 22, 2008, 06:52:15 PM »

Ok ok, maybe that's taking it a little too far.
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