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« on: April 08, 2008, 09:45:01 AM »

Is it just me or is anyone else sick and tired of reading and hearing about Julian Hall whining on and on about how everyone is out to get him and he's an innocent victim?
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« Reply #1 on: April 08, 2008, 09:50:23 AM »

I know Julian Hall personally he is a great guy but he has been giving the rough end of the sick and i dont blame him for going on about his situation.
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« Reply #2 on: April 08, 2008, 10:10:44 AM »

I heard ya boy is a total scum bag. And the fact that MJM want to keep him bankrupt for 15 years is pretty interesting. I wonder why. Hmmm.
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« Reply #3 on: April 08, 2008, 10:23:00 AM »

Julian needs to take responsibility for his own actions.  After graduating from Law School, he was showered with opportunities.  He was obviously too immature to deal with it and subsequently appears to have never recovered from his own sense of importance and entitlement.  There is no doubt that he is an extremely intelligent, eloquent and talented man, but this does not exonerate him from abiding by the same rules and regulations as the rest of us.

It is so unfortunate that Julian Hall has adopted the role of victim instead of accepting responsibility for his own actions and demonstrating he is able to rise above them.  These are the lessons that we should be sharing with our young men.   I am sad that his talents are being wasted by wallowing in self-pity and striking out at all and sundry  and that Julian Hall's sense of entitlement overrides basic common sense.
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« Reply #4 on: April 08, 2008, 10:38:56 AM »

Julian is inarguably one of the most intelligent, most capable, brilliant minds that Bermuda has produced. I think it's a shame that through vindictiveness his bankruptcy issue has been drawn on so long and prevented him from plying his trade.

As far as accepting responsibility, wasn't he found not-guilty by a jury?
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« Reply #5 on: April 08, 2008, 10:41:00 AM »

I heard ya boy is a total scum bag.

Agreed. My pops was good friends with Mr. Vaucrosson, and I've heard J. Hall brought up in conversation once or twice. From what I've heard from my pops, a past employer, and read online: he's a smart guy who had a lot of potential, but got involved with alot of things he shouldn't have to put it lightly.

From what I've seen of him on TV and in public, I'd say what I've heard about him is spot on...to each their own though.

Read for yourself: http://www.bermudapolicerecord.com  I tried to find the links to the articles relating specifically to him, but it's been a while and couldn't find it.

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Yea, that's basically word for word how my pops described it. Perhaps a little too soon after he returned from law school, but from the sounds of it people had high expectations of the guy.
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« Reply #6 on: April 08, 2008, 10:43:23 AM »

Agree with most of what you say Chapa. I have know the man for 40 years. I worked with his Father for many years. He has been accused of many things which I won't get into because of libel.

He's a very eloquent person and a damn good lawyer without a doubt. He just does not like rules as can be seen from many of his summations. There are laws that govern what he is refering too and he is subject too them just like the rest of the people that hold his credentials.

He feels wounded and takes it to the next level which is his right but the foundation is there for the retention of juris prudence............. Wink
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« Reply #7 on: April 08, 2008, 11:06:07 AM »

Take responsibility for his own actions...bwwwhahahahaha...yeah right, not much chance of that is there?

I'm also sick and tired of hearing about what "brilliant mind he has" and "how tragic he is". Bollocks. A brilliant mind is utterly worthless if you misuse it and think the rules don't apply to you.
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« Reply #8 on: April 08, 2008, 11:25:20 AM »

Good points Sandy...mabe thats why he's in the predicament he is in now.
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« Reply #9 on: April 08, 2008, 11:33:22 AM »

Julian is inarguably one of the most intelligent, most capable, brilliant minds that Bermuda has produced. I think it's a shame that through vindictiveness his bankruptcy issue has been drawn on so long and prevented him from plying his trade.

As far as accepting responsibility, wasn't he found not-guilty by a jury?

"vindictiveness" ? Has anyone been found guilty of this my dear ? Being found not guilty by a jury has nothing to do with the conduct of a Lawer/Barrister. They have rules that govern their behaviour just like you and I abide by the rules of humaity everyday. Wink
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« Reply #10 on: April 08, 2008, 12:22:45 PM »

CO,

There was a criminal trail in which JH was found not guilty.

The current set of issues is related to civil actions brought by a number of different creditors who JH owes money - in that matter he was found liable and has not paid anyone the monies he owes- despite the court ordering hom to do so - hence the current round of court cases.

Just wanted to make it clear that there were two separate issues.

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« Reply #11 on: April 08, 2008, 12:24:48 PM »

But Piggy - JH's fundamental argument is how is he to make restitution when he is umemployable because of his bankruptcy ruling?
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« Reply #12 on: April 08, 2008, 12:32:36 PM »

not sure he's unemployable....

didn't he decline a salary and accept tuition payments for his daughters' schooling instead?  I don't know the ins and outs of this whole saga, but that sounds a tad shady to me.
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« Reply #13 on: April 08, 2008, 12:37:48 PM »

Not sure of the ins and outs either 'D'... could have something to do with having to declare salary or something along those lines. I just know that a bankrupt lawyer cannot practice and if his bankruptcy status isn't being lifted unjustifiably, then that's wrong.
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« Reply #14 on: April 08, 2008, 12:40:03 PM »

CO - my fundamental point is that it's his fault he's bankrupt, no-one elses. Why do people make excuses for this man?!

The D - exactly. This guy has been surrounded by shady goings on for years and years.
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