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« Reply #15 on: April 14, 2008, 10:59:30 PM »

You wanna put more cars on the road? Wow!! What a great idea! dunce


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« Reply #16 on: April 15, 2008, 05:00:04 AM »

I personally would not give up my moped. I love driving it to work - in all weathers. Our car sits on our drive for use at the weekends only or exceptional circumstances (like my damn bike wouldn't start again!!).

Unfortunately not ALL 6 deaths on the road were brought about because the owner was driving a moped, "some" of the accidents happened because of drink driving, a choice between leaving the bike in town and getting a taxi (if one were to be found) or a lift off of someone that hadn't been drinking.

We've all been there - OK not all, but a lot of us have been there, the choice between waiting for ever for a taxi or saying sod it, i'll be alright this one time. It could have been any one of us making front page news.

These last accidents are a stark reminder that only a fool takes risks with drink driving. It's a reminder also that it may not be just yourself you hurt but also that you could cause an accident which brings about the death of another.


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« Reply #17 on: April 15, 2008, 05:50:27 AM »

Yes I want to put more cars on the road - because I want to save lives!

Sure these accidents were largely caused by drink driving and other poor driving habits, all I'm saying is that if the same accident had happened in a car these people would still be alive today.

Yes we should clamp down on bad driving, but it shouldn’t carry a death sentence.

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« Reply #18 on: April 15, 2008, 07:11:12 AM »

Welcome to the forum, YAL.

I take your point that cars are much safer than bikes.

I used to have both there, and although I've been riding motorcycles since I was six years old, it wasn't until Bermuda that I owned a road bike. I always felt that although I'm a safe rider, not having control over the cars on the road left me dangerously vulnerable. Yet, I rode my scooter (the Sucks mobile!) most of the time... its hard to give up the convenience for that worst case we assume will never happen to us.


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« Reply #19 on: April 15, 2008, 08:02:03 AM »

YAL, have you checked the stats? Quite a few of the road deaths over the years has been in car related accidents. So, how would putting more cars on the roads help? It's about making people realize that drink driving is not cool, is not okay and it can happen to you.


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Re: 2 more road deaths

« Reply #20 on: April 15, 2008, 08:13:44 AM »

Quote from: alsys30 on April 15, 2008, 08:02:03 AM

It's about making people realize that drink driving is not cool, is not okay and it can happen to you.

In what percentage of road deaths was alcohol involved (either on the part of the victim, or on the part of someone else)?

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« Reply #21 on: April 15, 2008, 08:21:49 AM »

I'm not sure, jnc. However the articles in the paper and the statements from CADA and the police indicate that it is a vast majority of them.


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Re: 2 more road deaths

« Reply #22 on: April 15, 2008, 08:41:39 AM »

Putting more cars on the road just isn't an option. Town is already a nightmare for parking. You give any # of visitors a car and it'll damn near impossible to find parking.

Interesting statistic I heard on the radio this morning, supposedly road users between the age of 16-20 or 21 only account for 10% of the road accidents in the past year... And, if I recall correctly 31-40yrs was responsible for the highest % (dun remember the exact figure).

Funny, government wants to put in place new legislation for bike users between 16-18yrs in order to reduce the # of accidents/deaths each year... Yet, they're going after the group responsible for the smallest % of accidents... Check ya aim bredrens, you're looking at the wrong target...


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« Reply #23 on: April 15, 2008, 09:24:53 AM »

"Check ya aim bredrens, you're looking at the wrong target..." The Gu'mint are always doing that! They seem to make important decisions based on the most superficial of thought. Knee Jerk Dummies. Amateurs. Truly a Bunch of Jokers. Lips Sealed


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« Reply #24 on: April 15, 2008, 10:26:21 AM »

Drink driving is a major problem in Bermuda, how many events have people been to where, whilst not drunk they are over the limit, and have driven? I hate to admit but I have done it.

If the police were to set up blockades, like they do to check if vehicles are licensed, on a Saturday night or after a large event they would soon catch drivers. This would then get the message that drink driving will not be tolerated.

I too find it unusual the age category for most deaths. When you see how some of the kids ride their bikes they must think they are invincible. Perhaps they are just lucky, and life catches up with them later in life. Perhaps it's lack of judgment as in, I could get through that gap when I was 20, I should be able to do it now, I just don't know. For a country that is supposed to be friendly and laid back, there are a lot of impatient people on the roads.


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Re: 2 more road deaths

« Reply #25 on: April 15, 2008, 01:06:27 PM »

Quote from: Jimmyjones on April 15, 2008, 10:26:21 AM

For a country that is supposed to be friendly and laid back, there are a lot of impatient people on the roads.

Like the imbecile on the scooter who decided to drive at what I estimate to be about 40K along the pavement coming into town this morning.


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Re: 2 more road deaths

« Reply #26 on: April 15, 2008, 01:10:28 PM »

Quote from: bermuda blue on April 15, 2008, 01:06:27 PM

Quote from: Jimmyjones on April 15, 2008, 10:26:21 AM

For a country that is supposed to be friendly and laid back, there are a lot of impatient people on the roads.

Like the imbecile on the scooter who decided to drive at what I estimate to be about 40K along the pavement coming into town this morning.

Were you wearing your uniform? You should have stopped him and searched him/her....... Grin


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« Reply #27 on: April 15, 2008, 01:13:57 PM »

"who decided to drive at what I estimate to be about 40K " Yeah... the speed limit is 35 k... so what's the problem? Any faster than that on a small-wheeled scooter on a rainy day could be considered dangerous! Shocked


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« Reply #28 on: April 15, 2008, 01:18:13 PM »

Quote from: UmustBkidding on April 15, 2008, 01:13:57 PM

Maybe, but the poor girl who was actually walking on the pavement got a bit of a shock when she peeped up from under her umbrella to see a scooter bearing down on her.


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Re: 2 more road deaths

« Reply #29 on: April 19, 2008, 09:37:56 AM »

JoKa SMoke,

I think you will find that many (not all) of the major and fatal collisions do involve younger drivers - certianly based on my recollections.

The stat. 'that older drivers may have more collisions' is based on the fact that more of this age group are driving - but based on my experiences their accidents would be classed many times as damage only - without injury.

Stats. are always a bit dangerous when not in the context of the topic – in this case to prevent serious injury accidents!

There are many schools of thought (and I am told studies) that younger drivers are not yet ‘wired’ to make smart decisions all the time…..hence the graduated license system in the UK, US, Canada and no doubt other countries.

Bermuda is not inventing this system - but attaching itself to a system that has and does work in other places.

I think it is a good idea....I am sorry if it inconveniences the younger good drivers and the ones who may be mature enough to make smart choices....but if it safes some lives or prevents some serious injuries in this age group then it has my vote.....

Legislation for public safety is never a popular thing….and it shouldn’t be…. It is about public safety……just think at one time we didn’t wear crash helmets to drive….. blink

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