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« Reply #30 on: April 19, 2008, 10:18:05 AM »

JJ,

I think the random sobriety checkpoints will be coming soon.

There was a recent (or not so recent) Attorney General Ruling that the Police cannot do 'random checks' - having said that there are ways to conduct such checks - but in the case of Impaired driving there has to be some evidence of the driving as well.

Having said all of that and not to bore you - there is still a fall back of charging care and control instead do the Impaired driving...

Having said all of that - street side breath analyzers and Random Checks would be a useful enforcement tool.

However, in my view the best tool....will be a cultural shift away from drunk driving on the Island....a community issue as well.....

I accept ...all the challenges with no taxis, buses and everything else that is going on.....but at the end of the day it is the individuals choice to drive drunk....no one else’s but their......no more excuses on this one...lets take responsibility for our own actions........

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« Reply #31 on: April 19, 2008, 02:13:04 PM »


There was a recent (or not so recent) Attorney General Ruling that the Police cannot do 'random checks' - having said that there are ways to conduct such checks - but in the case of Impaired driving there has to be some evidence of the driving as well.


Yes, it was while Larry Mussenden was AG. My recollection is that the police started a crackdown and were setting up road blocks at various points, relying on the provision of the RTA (or is it the MCA? I can't be bothered to check) that says that a police officer has the power to demand production of a road user's driving licence. I think that Larry correctly (IMO, of course) rendered the opinion that this only provided such power after having pulled over a vehicle for reasonable cause, etc, and did not in itself provided a power to pull over a vehicle for the purpose of carrying out a licence check. That's my recollection, anyway.
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« Reply #32 on: April 19, 2008, 04:23:26 PM »

Loki,

That was the one...I agree with you....but it still hangs around as a standing instruction......

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« Reply #33 on: April 25, 2008, 08:21:53 PM »

Interesting statistic I heard on the radio this morning, supposedly road users between the age of 16-20 or 21 only account for 10% of the road accidents in the past year... And, if I recall correctly 31-40yrs was responsible for the highest % (dun remember the exact figure).

Funny, government wants to put in place new legislation for bike users between 16-18yrs in order to reduce the # of accidents/deaths each year... Yet, they're going after the group responsible for the smallest % of accidents... Check ya aim bredrens, you're looking at the wrong target...

As Piglet says, the larger number of accidents in the older age group is reflective of the number of drivers.   I don't have numbers for Bermuda but I dug up some US statistics:

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Teen drivers have the highest crash risk per mile traveled of any age group. The problem is worst among 16 yearolds, who have the most limited driving experience and an immaturity that often results in risk-taking. Characteristics of fatal crashes of 16-year-old drivers include:

Driver error. Compared with older drivers’ fatal crashes, those of 16 year-olds more often involve driver error.

Speeding. Sixteen-year-old drivers have a higher rate of fatal crashes in which excessive speed is a factor.

Single-vehicle crashes. More of 16 year-olds’ fatal crashes involve only the teen’s vehicle. Typically these are high-speed crashes in which the driver lost control.

Passengers. Sixteen year-olds’ fatal crashes are more likely to occur when passengers are riding in the vehicle.  This risk increases with the addition of every passenger.

Alcohol. Although this is a problem among drivers of all ages, it’s actually less of a problem for 16 year olds.  Typically, about 15 percent of fatally injured 16-year-old drivers have blood alcohol concentrations of 0.08 percent or more, but alcohol becomes more of a problem in later teen years.

Night driving. This is a high-risk activity for beginners.  Per mile driven, the nighttime fatal crash rate of 16 year olds is about twice as high at night compared with during the day.

Low belt use. Most teenagers who are killed in crashes aren’t using their safety belts.

Note the linked article contains a table showing the percentage of accidents at various ages involving each of the above - the factors are double counted (e.g., of an accident involves no seat belt and speeding it is counted in both categories).

I'd expect similar things to hold true in Bermuda, perhaps compounded because a 16 year old here is on a bike, not in a car.

And some generic information about graduated licensing and why it's effective can be found here.

Just so you don't feel I'm picking on teenagers, some stats about older drivers.


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