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« Reply #30 on: May 09, 2008, 10:23:02 AM »

Thanks Blankman...forgot that one.

I would love to hear from someone who was actually on the bus at the time.  In addition to the way he conducted himself off the bus I would make bets that his behavior once he got back on the bus was just as bad if not worse.  I refuse to take the bus because of drivers like him.  Have been in situations where the attitudes from drivers is enough to put you over the edge first thing in the morning.
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« Reply #31 on: May 09, 2008, 11:00:46 AM »

From the BDA Sun:-

Premier Ewart Brown yesterday expressed concern about frequent bus and ferry strikes which are disrupting the lives of everyday Bermudians.

He made his comments in response to yesterday's strike, which brought morning buses to a standstill and left commuters stranded.

Dr. Brown, who is also the Transport Minister, went on to confirm a Bermuda Sun story, which was reported last month, that the St. David's mini-buses have been put out of service because least one bus driver is suspected of hiding the keys.

Dr. Brown said in a statement: "I am not yet fully briefed on the details surrounding the current situation; however, I am growing increasingly concerned about frequent and unnecessary disruption of public transport."



Of course no outline of what he's going to do about it...probably would eat into his extensive travel plans to have to sit down with these lot and try to sort something out....I mean it's only his Transport portfolio...nowhere near as fun as Tourism.
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« Reply #32 on: May 10, 2008, 03:25:28 AM »

Hmm, I'd actually forgotten altogether that he is responsible for tourism.

Looking at the strikes, ferry crashes, disorderly drivers etc... how long would a minister of transport last in another country with that performance record?
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« Reply #33 on: May 10, 2008, 03:34:24 AM »

Hmm, I'd actually forgotten altogether that he is responsible for tourism.
Looking at the strikes, ferry crashes, disorderly drivers etc... how long would a minister of transport last in another country with that performance record?


Actually nine or ten years with John Prescott in the UK Reality...

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« Reply #34 on: May 10, 2008, 03:59:46 AM »

Ha, checking the Private Eye headline was a highlight of my supermarket trips in the UK Smiley Would you say he did as bad a job as Brown? Or was he too busy in his Jags to do a job at all?
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« Reply #35 on: May 10, 2008, 08:02:20 AM »

Ha, checking the Private Eye headline was a highlight of my supermarket trips in the UK Smiley Would you say he did as bad a job as Brown? Or was he too busy in his Jags to do a job at all?

Depends how you look at it. He was given a whole raft of responsibilities but his main achievement was to be Blair's "go to" guy. He went to the trade unions and convinced them to change their minds about loving the (then) New Labour party. That's why he was given the job of Deputy Prime minister... He was Blair's pet rotweiller (is that how it's spelt?) there's a good Wikipedia entry on him here that explains all his departments - one of which was the Department for Environment, Transport and the Regions.

Yes during his (hey get the sound of this) his "ten-year tenure" (that's clever iddn't it?) there were numerous cock-ups and accidents/disasters that happened BUT that was one heck of a large department he was running... many, many times larger than even the largest Bermudian equivalent. There's no comparison to what Brown has to do for a living at the moment... in fact Brown wouldn't even get a job in one of the junior ministries doing what he thinks is a days work...

Prescott was a very colourful character to say the least. He couldn't keep his dick under control for starters (very few "straight" male MPs can)... He quit when Blair jumped ship leaving Gordon Brown to try to clear up the mess (at which he has failed, miserably - like John Major failed after Maggie.) He has been a type 2 diabetic for many years but his latest "thang" is that last month he announced he has the eating disorder bulimia nervosa, he believes was brought on by stress since the 1980s....   Slap

But I suppose if you are asking me to "call" it then I'd have to say that Prescott could do all of Brown's current duties with one arm tied behind his back - BUT that's not really saying much because I'm sure that a blind bulimic baboon could do it better as well...

Prescott supplied many gag writers (and Private Eye) with a decent living off his various gaffes - the difference between Prescott and Brown was that Precott would at least roll up his sleeves and "have a go" instead of just ducking the issue altogether and blaming someone else...

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« Reply #36 on: May 10, 2008, 08:26:23 AM »

blind bulimic baboon

Nice alliteration, but probably not a good animal order to chose from, eh?

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« Reply #37 on: May 10, 2008, 07:29:13 PM »

For those of you who don't read 21square, here's a copy of what I had to say over there:




I was there for the "incident", about 4 cars back - he was doing a LOT more than trying to have a talk with the woman in the car. She managed to lock the driver's side door (passenger side would have been closer to the bus) just before he got to her, but not the back door. He then proceeded to open the rear door and get his entire upper body into the car and you could see it rocking back and forth, I highly doubt he was trying to have a simple conversation. Once he was finally pulled away and appeared to be going back to his bus he again charged the car and it looked like he was trying to rip the windshield wipers off.  Based on what I saw, I'd say the man should be criminally charged.

I'm sure he was a "good, upstanding Christian man" though, just like the drunk ferry pilot. I'm a little surprised we didn't hear something along the lines of "you're not really angry unless there's steam coming out your ears, like in the cartoons" after we were told a few months ago that if you can still stand you're not drunk!

Even the kids on the bus (this was just before 5pm) were virtually silent rather than chanting "fight, fight!" or something similar - I mean, the woman herself is afraid to give a statement! Feel the love indeed
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« Reply #38 on: May 10, 2008, 07:43:28 PM »

All too typical my friend and the law is very much to blame.  In a land that is complainant driven the police are powerless in many instances to progress a case with either the Commissioner or the DPP being the complainant as is the case in many other jurisdiction with certain offences.  It is the case here only with things like drug possession where there is no real complainant.
In my view, it is still possible to charge the driver without the female's complaint using the CCTV as evidence of maybe threatening behaviour if another witness came forward for example.  Breach of the peace charges are not liked here for some reason and this would be a classic case of it and it doesn't need a complainant other than the COP.
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« Reply #39 on: May 10, 2008, 09:51:32 PM »

Thanks for that eyewitness report, CIB. It sounds like a horrifying incident, regardless of the cause. No way in the world is that OK, no matter what happened inthe car - for him to touch her car, never mind start to get inside, is just not on. Would you give a witness statement if a case were brought?
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« Reply #40 on: May 11, 2008, 06:58:20 AM »

In my view, it is still possible to charge the driver without the female's complaint using the CCTV as evidence of maybe threatening behaviour if another witness came forward for example.  Breach of the peace charges are not liked here for some reason and this would be a classic case of it and it doesn't need a complainant other than the COP.

It'll never happen.  And that has nothing to do with legal issues or anything else relating to right or wrong.  Simple fact is that if the driver was ever charged it's safe to say we'd have a national strike (at a minimum).
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« Reply #41 on: May 11, 2008, 07:25:43 AM »

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Nice alliteration, but probably not a good animal order to chose from, eh?
The attraction of the alliteration outweighed the potential for misinterpretation...

Oh yeah I forgot to mention...

Just as an added bonus... the autopsy also discovered that my wife was three months pregnant with our first child at the time of her murder... something that neither of us suspected because due to my wife's "classic" Afro-Caribbean full-figure she suffered with irregular menses and it was not unusual for her to skip periods for one or two months. Our child would have been 33 years old by now... life certainly sucks.
 
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« Reply #42 on: May 11, 2008, 09:01:31 AM »

It'll never happen.  And that has nothing to do with legal issues or anything else relating to right or wrong.  Simple fact is that if the driver was ever charged it's safe to say we'd have a national strike (at a minimum).
I agree it won't happen but not for the reasons you say.  Strikes generally happen because the employer does something not because someone is dealt with by police.
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« Reply #43 on: May 11, 2008, 09:10:08 AM »

It's a given that we'd have a national strike - has nothing to do with "the employer" - has to do with making government back down.
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« Reply #44 on: May 11, 2008, 09:44:57 AM »

It's a given that we'd have a national strike - has nothing to do with "the employer" - has to do with making government back down.
Explain what you mean by "....making government back down."
I can't agree with you though.  The practical purpose of any strike is, of course, to put pressure on the authorities....well, if the police recommend a prosecution in this case, what good can a shower of bus drivers taking to the street do??  There is no causal link between the PTB and the police.  The DPP wouldn't decide not to prosecute a sound case because some tourists can't get back to Dockyard.....I mean I know some nefarious dealings go on here and elsewhere but if that's your point, you're misguided in my view. 
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