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« on: May 25, 2008, 08:36:03 AM »

I just saw this in the Gazette.

http://www.royalgazette.com/siftology.royalgazette/Article/article.jsp?articleId=7d85bb330030021&sectionId=65

Anybody know anything about it?  Tranzporter?

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Back-yard biodiesel producer

By Owain Johnston-Barnes

In a 10ft-by-20ft tent behind his office at Ornamental Ironworks, Robin Gray is producing what for some might be an answer to rising fuel costs.

Mr. Gray turns used cooking oil, which is usually thrown out with the garbage and burned at Tynes Bay, into fuel capable of running in any diesel engine.

Commonly called biodiesel, the fuel is both cleaner and less expensive than regular diesel. While diesel costs more than $7 a gallon at gas stations, Mr. Gray is selling biodiesel for $5 a gallon.

He's been selling the alternative fuel for several months, and he has already found a number of loyal customers, some who have even told him that their engines run smoother and quieter with the environmentally friendly fuel.

"The idea of biodiesel appeals to a lot of people," he said. "I've only gotten positive feedback."

All the used cooking oil comes from the Island's restaurants, who change their cooking oil frequently. Mr. Gray collects the oil, filters it, and processes it with alcohol and lye.

"It's kind of like brewing wine or beer," said Mr. Gray.

Once the process is complete a couple of days later, the result is as much as 50 gallons of a honey coloured liquid which looks nothing like the cooking oil that it came from.

"Biodiesel is as toxic as table salt and as biodegradeable as sugar," he said. Mr. Gray also said that it could be drunk without ill-effects, but he warned that the taste is terrible.

In the US, many biodiesel producers have become concerned with rising food prices, which have caused the cost of production to rise. In some cities, like San Francisco, biodiesels have become so popular that the theft of used cooking oil has become commonplace, but for now, Mr. Gray isn't concerned about a lack of oil.

"It seems to be plentiful," he said. "Every week we see more used cooking oil than we can actually use."

If the product's popularity increases, as Mr. Gray hopes, he is confident that he will be able to increase production to meet demands.

Mr. Gray doesn't plan to stop his environmental efforts with biodiesel. He has already begun to import wind turbines, which he hopes will become popular on the Island along with solar panels.

"Belco makes power in Pembroke, but by the time it gets to Dockyard, there's a 60-percent line loss," he said. Using resources like waste oil and wind, Mr. Gray suggests that Bermudians can help the environment and help save money at the same time.

So far, the only downside of biodiesel is that it may make your fellow drivers hungry.

"It makes your exhaust smell like french fries," he said.


While it's a different discussion I noticed the comment about "60% line loss" - can that be right?
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« Reply #1 on: May 25, 2008, 08:50:42 AM »

Blankman - I first heard mention of this about a month ago and my response was pretty much... yeah. right.  blink

Thanks for providing the link. Wonder what the cost-benefit of this type of fuel is...

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« Reply #2 on: May 25, 2008, 09:29:27 AM »

   Actaully someone was making Biodiesel @ Southampton Industrial Park a while ago... I know Peter Brombeys Trucks used to run on it, you could tell by the smell. Personally I never bought any because I didn't trust using it in my trucks. Not worth causing $10,000 damage to an engine to save $2 per gallon in fuel. I looked into making my own a few years ago but decided against it as a few of the chemicals are dangerous & the Gov. gave me a hard time as you would need permission. It's really a good idea, I know someone was planning on doing it at Southside but I haven't heard anymore about that of late. I've seen the amout of used oil the Corporation of Hamilton takes to Tynes Bay a couple times a week. At least 50 5gallon containers each time. That's 250 gallons every 2 days from the city alone.. so their is no shortage of oil to be converted. Seeing as Diesel is selling for close to $8 a gallon today and to make Biodiesel costs around $3 per gallon someone could make alot of money if the mix is right.
   Also modern diesel engines (say those made in the last 10 or 15 years) are said to be able to run on Biodiesel without any problems... older engines have problems as some of the gaskets & rubber in them are broken down by the Biodiesel... but even these can be made to work with it by changing the vulnerable bits.
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« Reply #3 on: May 25, 2008, 09:36:20 AM »

"Belco makes power in Pembroke, but by the time it gets to Dockyard, there's a 60-percent line loss"

I noticed the comment about "60% line loss" - can that be right?

Well, it's possible... but I wonder? The thing is that line loss = voltage drop (approximately - if you're taking off power along the way, so that that line loss is an average over a number of things feeding off a single circuit, it's more complex, and the voltage drop at the far end is even bigger than the total line loss), so if you have a line with a  50% line loss, the voltage at the far end is also down 50%. But you have to have 110V into the house (approximately) because household devices expect it. Which isn't the end of the world, you just use a different step-down transformer (power is never sent around at 110V, it's always at a higher voltage, and stepped down close to the house).

But I think utilities generally like to keep line losses down lower. The thing is that it's not that hard to do so - you just up the supply voltage (use different transformers on each end), and the loss drops - double the voltage, and you cut the loss by 75%.

Maybe it's a single circuit, and it's 60% only at the Dockyard end, and it's less elsewhere (for most of the power drawn off the circuit, so that the total loss for the line as a whole is less than 60% overall), so it's not worth upping the voltage?

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« Reply #4 on: May 25, 2008, 09:39:31 AM »

Thanks for providing the link. Wonder what the cost-benefit of this type of fuel is...
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Don't think I can add anything to what Tranzporter said - he seems to know considerably more about biodiesel than me, anyway! :-)

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« Reply #5 on: May 25, 2008, 09:43:32 AM »

My problem a few years ago was that they wouldn't allow you to produce BioDiesel in your backyard for obvious reasons... but if you have to rent a place in an idustrial area that changes the whole cost structure. I'd have to jack up the price to close to that of regular diesel in order to cover the cost of rent, equipment etc. Hmmm... think I'll look into it again as the latest price increases are making this look quite attractive as a business,
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