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« on: August 26, 2008, 08:00:20 PM »

What does the karma number mean?

Is it anything more than a popularity contest? 

How does this system reflect the collective attitude of the site towards a given member?

Is it of any use, or should it be pitched out now that the forum has grown and changed from the original small group?
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« Reply #1 on: August 26, 2008, 08:15:40 PM »

"How does this system reflect the collective attitude of the site towards a given member?"

I think it SHOULD, but it can't, as we all know.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but it was set up as a way for us to express our agreement or displeasure with specific posts or behaviours.

Unfortunately, this isn't the case, so, I'd have to go with either "ditch" or "refine the rules".
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« Reply #2 on: August 26, 2008, 08:52:21 PM »

Correct me if I'm wrong, but it was set up as a way for us to express our agreement or displeasure with specific posts or behaviours.

I'm afraid that gives more credit for design than is due.  It was a standard feature, I just left it turned on.   innocent

What you suggest is pretty much what it started out being used for in our initial small group, but I don't think it is used the same way now.
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« Reply #3 on: August 26, 2008, 08:55:07 PM »

No, I'm pretty positive it isn't! *lol*
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« Reply #4 on: August 26, 2008, 11:13:00 PM »

What you suggest is pretty much what it started out being used for in our initial small group, but I don't think it is used the same way now.

Are you referring to the times when people have gone on every hour just to smite a person repeatedly?

Or something different?
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« Reply #5 on: August 26, 2008, 11:50:50 PM »

For sure, that obsessive smiting thing is pretty weird.  A bit creepy, even.

I was also thinking of the magnitude of smites certain people get.  It used to be just a rare smite, but even after we turned the karma description feature on smiting has become a more common occurrence.  I've also seen pack behaviour regarding the karma system - rally a group to collectively change another member's karma count.

I think someone mentioned that it is a reflection of the bias of the membership, but I'm not sure if that idea has been fleshed out yet.
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« Reply #6 on: August 27, 2008, 10:53:32 AM »

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« Reply #7 on: August 27, 2008, 10:54:04 PM »

I've also seen pack behaviour regarding the karma system - rally a group to collectively change another member's karma count.

are there multiple packs?

does this happen often?

is there a particular 'pack' of people who repeatedly do this?

would it be inappropriate to out this 'pack'?

would it accomplish anything - other than to just start more drama?

I've never really cared about Karma. The explanation bit was a nice touch though. Maybe it'd be better to just get rid of it. Maybe it'd be better to reset all members karma - to allow everyone a fresh start. 


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When did Noel bounce?

Was there a particular post that was his last straw?
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« Reply #8 on: August 28, 2008, 10:50:49 AM »

"When did Noel bounce?

Was there a particular post that was his last straw?"

1: Very good question.

2: I seriously hope it wasn't something I said or did. I miss the guy's rational and pleasant manner.
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« Reply #9 on: August 28, 2008, 02:54:42 PM »

i say we "bounce" the Karma thing.  It was a cool feature in the beginning.  It spawned Karmaholics all over the place (  Wink ).  But then it evolved into a tool to piss people off.  I feel it takes away from threads. Hell there have been flame wars about the use and abuse of it.  I think we are all adults here (well most of us anyway  Cool ) and adult discussion doesn't need karma or gold stars or any other form of ficticious tokens to agree or disagree with someone.

Packs and hourly smiting eh? wow...kinda sad if you think about it.

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« Reply #10 on: August 28, 2008, 03:01:11 PM »

Eh! Don't you dare touch my karma...  Angry
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« Reply #11 on: August 28, 2008, 08:39:44 PM »

i say we "bounce" the Karma thing.   I think we are all adults here (well most of us anyway  Cool ) and adult discussion doesn't need karma or gold stars or any other form of ficticious tokens to agree or disagree with someone.

Packs and hourly smiting eh? wow...kinda sad if you think about it.

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« Reply #12 on: August 28, 2008, 11:06:22 PM »

As much as I respect the Captain's idea, the karma system stays.  I'm not messing with alsys....

The question is more, what does karma really mean? 

Smoking Gun has the most (presently 664) and tigga has the least (-457).  Does that just mean Smokes has more like-minded supporters?
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« Reply #13 on: August 29, 2008, 07:54:41 AM »

I get what you are saying, CC... but it's a bit like punishing the many for the few. Personally, I love reading the comments attached more than the actual karma rising. It's a simple way to interact that is not derailing the thread, per se. That and yesh, I get all giggly when I think I've said something profound (mildly) and others agree.
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« Reply #14 on: August 29, 2008, 09:09:53 AM »

As much as I respect the Captain's idea, the karma system stays.  I'm not messing with alsys....

The question is more, what does karma really mean? 

Smoking Gun has the most (presently 664) and tigga has the least (-457).  Does that just mean Smokes has more like-minded supporters?

Personally, I like to see the % of karma points to total posts.  Karma ratio... Kinda says something to me about the quality of posts from the poster. 

Mike - download the Karma data and put it on a spreadsheet and ask the marxist to show evidence of Sucks' institutionalized racism.
Do blacks and/or PLP supporters have lower "karma ratios"?

Karma should help to reflect content and quality of the posts and not the skincolour or political view of the poster, NO? 

Karma should stay.       

Suckers - Are you proud of your Karma ratio? Wink

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