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« Reply #30 on: June 24, 2009, 09:58:37 AM »

"that's such an old trick - taking a statement out of context"

As spoken by the Master Baiter himself. Smiley

Calvin - every once in a while I have re-explain my position. No problem.

I do not hate the PLP. Never have and never will. Don't hate the UBP but then again there's nothing left to hate or even discuss. What I do hate is that the PLP has been completely hijacked by one individual. The one person who a long time ago I lost complete and utter respect for. Not based solely on the fact that he's turned the PLP (and Bermuda) into a one man show but based upon what I have seen him do in person. This site has wilted away somewhat for a variety of reasons.... some will accuse me of being one of them but in their heart of hearts they know the truth. I'm strictly about seeking good governance and doing so with my heart on my sleeve and a twinkle in my eye. In all serious I do not take myself too seriously. I feel one should push, prod and cajole politicians and opinion makers but do so with a sense of having a bit of fun without being insulting.

Except of course when it comes to tigga. He's a fair game if ever there was a cuddly tiger needing to get his shots. Smiley

Sparrx - I'm sorry. When people get to their 40's and 50's they know when someone's doing something just for the sake of doing it. Tigga is NOT the average black Bermudian so I find it bizarre that you would peg Bermuda's relationship problems based upon the interactions you see here. As I said, ask alsys, Casual Observer, Guilden, J Galt, D. Morris, Ken et al. if they consider themselves as equals to the mercenary character "tigga". For that is all he is. A player sent into do battle in what his master considers/perceives to be a white man's blog.
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« Reply #31 on: June 24, 2009, 10:15:00 AM »

Sparxx...

"Whites get angry, but at the end of the day that anger is seen by blacks as hatred and in reality... it is. There will come a time when we have to move past the rhetoric and actually engage blacks, face to face on their own grounds. That is the ONLY way forward".

And meanwhile Rome burns huh? Meanwhile one man f...s with this land and it's peoples - it's future?

Maybe Dale Butler saw the light.

   
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« Reply #32 on: June 24, 2009, 10:16:36 AM »

"that's such an old trick - taking a statement out of context"

As spoken by the Master Baiter himself. Smiley

Calvin - every once in a while I have re-explain my position. No problem.

I do not hate the PLP. Never have and never will. Don't hate the UBP but then again there's nothing left to hate or even discuss. What I do hate is that the PLP has been completely hijacked by one individual. The one person who a long time ago I lost complete and utter respect for. Not based solely on the fact that he's turned the PLP (and Bermuda) into a one man show but based upon what I have seen him do in person. This site has wilted away somewhat for a variety of reasons.... some will accuse me of being one of them but in their heart of hearts they know the truth. I'm strictly about seeking good governance and doing so with my heart on my sleeve and a twinkle in my eye. In all serious I do not take myself too seriously. I feel one should push, prod and cajole politicians and opinion makers but do so with a sense of having a bit of fun without being insulting.

Except of course when it comes to tigga. He's a fair game if ever there was a cuddly tiger needing to get his shots. Smiley

Sparrx - I'm sorry. When people get to their 40's and 50's they know when someone's doing something just for the sake of doing it. Tigga is NOT the average black Bermudian so I find it bizarre that you would peg Bermuda's relationship problems based upon the interactions you see here. As I said, ask alsys, Casual Observer, Guilden, J Galt, D. Morris, Ken et al. if they consider themselves as equals to the mercenary character "tigga". For that is all he is. A player sent into do battle in what his master considers/perceives to be a white man's blog.


my viewpoint wasn't just in reference to tigga... it was more for whites who continue to engage him. He may certainly have an agenda, and by continually engaging him in that agenda you become all that he wants you to be. I'm certain not all blacks are represented by tigga. Thank God/Allah/Jehova/Optimus Prime for that. Just realize that for every Casual Observer and the like, there are tiggas and the like.
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« Reply #33 on: June 24, 2009, 10:20:34 AM »

Sparxx...

"Whites get angry, but at the end of the day that anger is seen by blacks as hatred and in reality... it is. There will come a time when we have to move past the rhetoric and actually engage blacks, face to face on their own grounds. That is the ONLY way forward".

And meanwhile Rome burns huh? Meanwhile one man f...s with this land and it's peoples - it's future?

Maybe Dale Butler saw the light.

   

here's a thought Martin... if we dedicated as much effort into fixing the problems as we do bitching about them... maybe we wouldn't even have smoke to deal with.

If you can't beat 'em...
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« Reply #34 on: June 24, 2009, 10:31:43 AM »

Here's the rub Sparxx....you can't join them.

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« Reply #35 on: June 24, 2009, 10:44:26 AM »

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Here's the rub Sparxx....you can't join them.

tell that to:

Dr. Ball
David Allen
Zane Desilva
Jane Coreria
Jonathon Starling

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Starling:after joining the PLP, and it becoming widely known, I myself recieved some threatening phone calls, and graffiti chalked on my property calling me a traitor and a Jew, complete with swastikas.

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Starling: I think you will find that the majority of Whites who joined the PLP, even in the immediate aftermath of the 1998 election, experienced similar things. Today its much more likely that you will find yourself baited or shunned socially...

it's not the plp that makes it hard to join them - it's ur white friends  Smiley...that's according to a white plper that is...
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« Reply #36 on: June 24, 2009, 11:03:38 AM »

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Here's the rub Sparxx....you can't join them.

tell that to:

Dr. Ball
David Allen
Zane Desilva
Jane Coreria
Jonathon Starling

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Starling:after joining the PLP, and it becoming widely known, I myself recieved some threatening phone calls, and graffiti chalked on my property calling me a traitor and a Jew, complete with swastikas.

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Starling: I think you will find that the majority of Whites who joined the PLP, even in the immediate aftermath of the 1998 election, experienced similar things. Today its much more likely that you will find yourself baited or shunned socially...

it's not the plp that makes it hard to join them - it's ur white friends  Smiley...that's according to a white plper that is...

Let us thank god that no aesthetically challenged creative genius has ever spewed a bucket of racist filth at any bruvver that dared to join the UBP.
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« Reply #37 on: June 24, 2009, 11:07:59 AM »

David Allen
Dr Ball
Zane Desilva
Jane Coreria
Jonathon Starling...

So that's it is it? Five people?

Desilva and Coreria are so far up his lordships ass, that it's permanently dark - and Starling gets his ass well and truely kicked by Burt in the RG.

Brilliant! Remind me to mention Starling's name when I go to sign up.
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« Reply #38 on: June 24, 2009, 11:14:32 AM »

There are only two good pieces of news this week (so far). One is that there is a crack in the PLP veneer. Thanks to Davina and others for that.

I wonder how long it will be before someone "takes her to one side and has a little chat with her'? You know....the "we must stick together" bit.

The other good news is that the Chinese haven't asked for the 4 to be repatriated.
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« Reply #39 on: June 24, 2009, 11:17:09 AM »

So let's see.... We can join...

The UBP ... which for all intents and purposes is "dead and gone" (PLEASE don't fight for it... it's done)

The PLP ... Government of the day and immediate hope for OUR future (whether you like it or not)

Or some third party, yet to be created, whose chances right now are probably equivalent to the UBP's.

If you care enough about the future of your country... it's time to change the way you believe.

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« Reply #40 on: June 24, 2009, 11:34:00 AM »

You sound kind of resigned to the possibility that everything else will fail Sparxx.

UBP - totally agree with you.
PLP - if they get their act together, it makes sense.
3rd Party - well, if you say it's dead - then I guess it's dead. No more discussion about that bad little thing. No point huh.
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« Reply #41 on: June 24, 2009, 11:45:06 AM »

I never said a 3rd party was dead. I said it doesn't exist... therefore it's chances are equal to the UBP's. If you know something I don't... point me to their platform.
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« Reply #42 on: June 24, 2009, 12:17:29 PM »

Well - that question certainly brought the topic to a close.
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« Reply #43 on: June 24, 2009, 01:16:51 PM »

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The fact of the matter is that any white Bdian who dares to criticise this current administration

but aren't u doing the same thing - every attack on this site is directed at the plp - and aside from sparxx and mike no one calls anyone on their bias

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I will just sit back (in Toronto) and wait for the race war to start."

that's such an old trick - taking a statement out of context - here's the genesis of bda's race problem,
from Dr. Keneth Robinson's book HERITAGE: "...in 1842 a scheme was hatched by whites in Bermuda to import labour from the UK for the purpose of bringing about racial parity and countering Black worker's demands for better wages. Against protest by Black Bermudians, The Bermuda government  passed legislation to provide subsistence money for these migrant white workers (from the UK and Portugal - rather than pay Black Bermudians fair wages)





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The fact of the matter is that any white Bdian who dares to criticise this current administration

if only that were the case - this attitude was in effect even b4 the plp was in power - it has nothing to do w/. dr. brown - as i said - they said the same thing about blk leaders in 1909 as they have in 2009

ie. here's a quote from the white bda govt. in 1941 about blk bdan political activist, Walton George Brown: "Mr. Brown appears to occupy himself with...dubious business transactions and attempts to stir up racial distrust."

hmmm does that "accusation" sound familiar




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Is there any depth to which Ewart's behaviour could sink which would cause you to question the correctness of his actions as Premier?

PS You must answer without reference to the actions of any previous incumbent.
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« Reply #44 on: June 24, 2009, 02:09:51 PM »

tigga,

what about the rest of my questions regarding Dr. Brown's blatant violation of BDA's Consitution and his one man band idea of a democratic nation?  I know you are an intelligent individual who went to a highly respectable University.  So you understand that dr. Brown's unilateral actions are a direct contradiction to BDA's democratic principles and a direct slap in the face of BDA's electorate who voted in NUMEROUS individuals to make decisions in a colectice capacity.  

So are you going to answer (defend) the question?  Or are you going to take the lead from your infalliable and flawless leader and ignore some question which you can't answer and label it as  a "plantation question."  Oh wait he is not your leader.  Your white canadian leader is more than likely the descendant of some slave owners.  Since you and your entourage believe that all whites must have been a massa at some point in the game.
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